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As a senior moderator here, I was asked to step in and rectify the situation.
Everyone please calm down. The OP @smiro is a newbie and he doesn't understand the actual core problem here.
Read carefully @smiro: I will explain to you the issue.
- Pharmacom labs is a manufacturer of steroids (manufacturer), they make ampules and vials in China mostly but in other parts of the world too, including Egypt and Bulgaria (both counterfeit world capitals).
- Basicstero.ws is a steroid selling website (shop), yes they could be listed as an official reseller of pharmacom labs, and, at the same time, YES they could be selling fake and counterfeit pharmacom labs. How?
- It's actually very simple, shady shops like basicstero (and many others), get approved with distributors like pharmacom and buy 10% of their stock of the real products, and the rest they are selling 90%+ fake and counterfeits of pharmacom labs. The counterfeits mostly are made in Egypt, Bulgaria and East in China and India. The quality of the counterfeits can range from "oopppps this is VERY painful PIP injections" to "damn I'm in the hospital with an infections" to, in extreme cases, "help! I'm having blood poisoning from fake pharmacom". With counterfeits and fakes you never know what you're putting into your body.
- As you can understand, both sides of the story can be true. Basicstero can be listed as a reseller of pharmacom labs, and sell counterfeit/fake pharmacom labs at the exact same time.
- In life, you get what you pay for, if the price is too cheap and too good to be true, it probably is.
@AldoLove please do not insult @smiro , warning to you
Let's start with this one. I've seen many of the approved sources raise their prices. Same as food prices are going up. In fact I'd question any source where the price doesn't reflect any increase in the raw materials - it's just impossible
On basicstero.ws. For a good while they were a good solid source. Within 48 hours of the family of forums finding out that they had started to scam members they were dropped as an approved source. Basically they fucked over members and were banned. Any claims of HIV and AIDs are just silly and any member that 'proves' the claim by not actually providing proof and just links to other members of our family of forums is hurting their case and needs to cease and desist
You need to knock that kind of behavior on the head.
Post a copy of the medical reporthey I was in the hospital for 2 weeks after injecting pharmacom I bought from basicstero, had bad infection and FEVER!
FUCK YOU @smiro you shitty asshole shill
Be careful with what you say.@smiro you're saying that we need to pull out headlines? lol
sounds to me like you're the one shilling for basicstero.ws right now
Go do some research ton of NEGATIVE reviews on basicstero.ws, they sell crap, including nasty side effects
example:
Basicstero.ws side effects are an issue
I’m dealing with some horrible side effects using basicstero.ws products. I’m doing testosterone, equipoise, and Primo on this cycle and I’m running around 300 milligrams of each per week so just shy of a 1000 milligrams total. Dealing with a lot of shutdown side effects, no libido, strength has...www.musclechemistry.com
@smiro domestic-supply.com has higher prices because he sells REAL pharmacom labs. You can go ahead and inject yourself with the basicstero.ws fake cheap pharmacom labs and get some AIDS in the process and end up in the hospital.
Also you calling us clowns? thats rude and you're nasty, we were NOT rude to you, you chose to be rude to us. You're a clown for shilling for basicstero!
and no one is stopping you from poisoning yourself, go ahead try it and see with fake pharmacom labs.
Look and listen carefully. We can rate Greg and his customer service skills from now to doomsday and you're still not obliged to buy from him. Or you could still use him and just pick another brand. There are MULTIPLE choices, sources and brands.
Or you can, if you so choose, simply go ahead and use the product you want and ignore comments. I assume you have hair on your balls and are capable of making your own mind up.
And I'd also take issue with some of the comments I've seen regarding moderators.
our domestic prices are the same as theirs)
@domestic-supply.com you have the same domestic prices, and you have faster shipping and you have better customer support, and MOST important your sell REAL Pharmacom labs, with logs, blood tests and 23 years of customer feedback.
I support D-S all the way, Greg is #1 for a reason.
and domestic supply also supports the community and we help others achieve their dreams and goals.
basicstero abandoned our community and selective scammed on the way out.
doesn't take a brain surgeon to see the difference
criticalmasz
Newbie
Wow, this thread got so heated and interesting that I just had to join the forum!!
Seriously though, I almost placed an order at basicstero.ws until I read the reviews here and at EVO. MesoRx and eroids on the other hand are full of positive reviews for this vendor.
I applaud the mods for stepping in and cooling things down. However, I have to agree with OP on at least one point: no one here, even the mods, have provided any legit evidence of anything. That goes for both sides.
I happen to have contacted pharmacom last week to ask if basicstero was indeed their own store front. Someone from sales at pharmacomlabs.com responded with this:
“Hello!
You can check our direct store for purchasing - basicstero.ws
These forums are scammers and purposely give us shit because we have a conflicted relationship with them. Check the eroids and meso forums.”
So at least from that perspective, I would think basicstero truly is pharmacom’s own storefront. What this doesn’t square out though is whether the people who run the store are in fact shipping out legit vs fake gear. Reading the mods comments, it appears they got banned for selectively scamming. Another forum mentioned that when “the dad died” and the son took over, things went downhill at basicstero very quickly as he started selling fake hear.
There is enough reason to be concerned about basicstero. For now I will stay away from it. The only thing that still bothers me though is the lack of evidence- only anecdotal- either in support of or against basicstero selling fake gear. It’s especially bothersome when only anabolex/evo have bad reviews but other forums do not.
But again, I am staying clear of basicstero and suggest OP does the same. Why risk your health and your life if you can’t be 100% sure of the gear coming from a source?
Seriously though, I almost placed an order at basicstero.ws until I read the reviews here and at EVO. MesoRx and eroids on the other hand are full of positive reviews for this vendor.
I applaud the mods for stepping in and cooling things down. However, I have to agree with OP on at least one point: no one here, even the mods, have provided any legit evidence of anything. That goes for both sides.
I happen to have contacted pharmacom last week to ask if basicstero was indeed their own store front. Someone from sales at pharmacomlabs.com responded with this:
“Hello!
You can check our direct store for purchasing - basicstero.ws
These forums are scammers and purposely give us shit because we have a conflicted relationship with them. Check the eroids and meso forums.”
So at least from that perspective, I would think basicstero truly is pharmacom’s own storefront. What this doesn’t square out though is whether the people who run the store are in fact shipping out legit vs fake gear. Reading the mods comments, it appears they got banned for selectively scamming. Another forum mentioned that when “the dad died” and the son took over, things went downhill at basicstero very quickly as he started selling fake hear.
There is enough reason to be concerned about basicstero. For now I will stay away from it. The only thing that still bothers me though is the lack of evidence- only anecdotal- either in support of or against basicstero selling fake gear. It’s especially bothersome when only anabolex/evo have bad reviews but other forums do not.
But again, I am staying clear of basicstero and suggest OP does the same. Why risk your health and your life if you can’t be 100% sure of the gear coming from a source?
criticalmasz
Newbie
And yes I’m new here. Though about joining for a while but didn’t take the time to signup until now. There’s a lot of really good info on anabolex!!
Though about joining for a while but didn’t take the time to signup until now. There’s a lot of really good info on anabolex!!
@criticalmasz welcome to the anabolex familyAnd yes I’m new here.
happy to have your response.Tell us about your cycle plans, anything you doing now TRT or plans?
We fully agree with you, the many issues with basicstero.ws, including selective scamming members on anabolex makes it impossible for anyone reasonable to trust them.
I agree with what @going2cycle said: store front or not, counterfeits and fakes are being sold there for sure!
Very Concerned
bros you coming on here being nasty to us when we did nothing to you we only care about protecting our community from scammers like basicstero and protecting our community recommending good people like domestic supply
anabolex.com
You want to buy fake underdosed gear go right to basicstero but if you want real high quality gear go to @domestic-supply.com I'll pay couple xtra $$$ to know I'm getting best gear money can buy. My log speaks for itself and @domestic-supply.com
Yes he just dbled his prices. You are a clown and sound life a broke one at that. Buy dirty ass pharmacon from. Basicstero and when you infected well then that will b on you
We are living in a time of record inflation all over the world, naturally prices go up and down reflective of the current economy. That is how business works, if x product is now more expensive then retailers have no choice, you either lose a ton of money and go out of business, or you raise a little bit to stay in business, thats common sense.
I personally don't use sources I don't trust, with that said I've used Greg's products and they are legitimate, effective and work.
The beligas bpc and hgh work flawlessly, he'll the bpc I got from Domestic Supply healed all my knee pain to the point I can hammer legs and cardio again.
I can also say I've never had one bad experience with any of the approved sources in our community, everything I've used and run works and works incredibly well.
Naturally I'm not gonna support some random source especially when all I see anywhere I look is horrible reviews on them.
Every source here has been vetted, tested and made sure the products and people are legitimate and good 2 go, last thing we would do is give bunk bad gear to our community members.
Here is a family and we intend on keeping it thay way, we don't have time for nonsense or bs drama.
All sources have been top notch and treated me great with respect, our sources truly are awesome as well as the people behind them.
Even before I became a mod I was taken care of, me being a mod does nothing when it comes to customer service or how im treated, im a mod because I love the community and the people in it trust me, nothing more nothing less.
I personally don't use sources I don't trust, with that said I've used Greg's products and they are legitimate, effective and work.
The beligas bpc and hgh work flawlessly, he'll the bpc I got from Domestic Supply healed all my knee pain to the point I can hammer legs and cardio again.
I can also say I've never had one bad experience with any of the approved sources in our community, everything I've used and run works and works incredibly well.
Naturally I'm not gonna support some random source especially when all I see anywhere I look is horrible reviews on them.
Every source here has been vetted, tested and made sure the products and people are legitimate and good 2 go, last thing we would do is give bunk bad gear to our community members.
Here is a family and we intend on keeping it thay way, we don't have time for nonsense or bs drama.
All sources have been top notch and treated me great with respect, our sources truly are awesome as well as the people behind them.
Even before I became a mod I was taken care of, me being a mod does nothing when it comes to customer service or how im treated, im a mod because I love the community and the people in it trust me, nothing more nothing less.
This dudes a bum. He doesn’t deserve anyone’s time. OP you are very negative and shouldn't bash sources that are approved and trusted.
your points are not making sense.....prices can go up and down that is common.....
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