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Secondary Polycythemia Complications - Extended Report

ts06

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Hello friends of TRT & board members,

I come to you with a good heart and respectfully first and foremost before I make this statement/post. I do not care that I have not reported a log. Please read that twice. I am under extreme medical care currently by specialist and I simply come here to report what I'm currently going through and want to potentially help educate others. This is not a diagnosis for you, but something I am experiencing.

I've reported in here for years that I have been feeling worse and worse and worse. I've posted many blood tests, trying to figure out the root cause of my Secondary Polycythemia, as I do NOT abuse TRT. Over the course of 3 years, my well being and everything has gone gradually downhill.

I made many posts in here with no answers, other than "start your log". Ladies & Gentlement, this is FAR deeper than any log could help with.

After 6 months of testing, diving deep into an advanced lipid panel, I believe we have uncovered the starting point to my personal problems with a long road to "maybe" a recovery.

For years, I was self diagnosed myself with TRT. I never abused it, always did the right way (geneza pharma). I ran about 120-150mg/ week for a few years. I started to feel "down" one day. Like a light switch went off and never came back. Zero lidido (dead libido), zero motivation, drained, tired, almost like I had low T symptoms). Fast forward years of donating double red blood cells, high hemoglobin, high hematocrit - I wasn't feeling better anymore. Every 3 months, even after Double RBC donation, my hemoglobin would spike back to 18.3-18.7.

After 4 years, reading & reading & reading, I have finally thrown in the white flag and reached out to a doctor saying, "Doc, all my levels are fine. My DHT, my DHEA, my Progesterone, my testosterone, my estrodial (granted my test levels were at 950 on my last test).

My lipids have been completely jacked up and it's not like I've been eating like total shit (I know people who eat far worse than me with far better lipids). However, today a beast finally reared it's ugly head.

I have ZERO iron in my body. I've been avoiding iron due to the Polycythemia, but my due to donating so much - I had an Iron Saturation level of 2 (13-45%), Ferritin levels of 7 (30-400ng/dl), resulting in unsaturated IBC 361 (112-347).

Doctors are reporting I'm virtually in the worst possible spot I can possibly be and the fact that I'm even functioning is a miracle.

I'm currently seeing specialists for direct iron infusions, but unfortunately, it could potentially be to late for me. Results of this will take some time to see see how my Iron Uptake transitions, but without Iron and the ability to use it (due to the severe polycythemia) I have a very severe uphill climb.

I guess the point of my post, is gentlemen, please use a doctor for this stuff. No matter how smart you think you are, no matter how much research you do, something like this could sneak up on any of you. I don't want anybody to feel the way that I feel on a daily basis and encourage you to do TRT the right way or not at all.
 
The right way would be through a doctor. Don't rely on these forums other than for situations like mine where others are seeking professional help and can relay medical solutions from real doctors in certain scenarios (and what you're experiencing).

Just asking for some prayers right now. At 37 years old, I've never felt as poorly as I do now. Mentally, physically, spiritually. I leave with, this forum is full of A LOT of good people who mean well. Many of you have reached out. I want to thank you all, but this is now my personal journey and I'll report to all of you, while I can.
 
Hello friends of TRT & board members,

I come to you with a good heart and respectfully first and foremost before I make this statement/post. I do not care that I have not reported a log. Please read that twice. I am under extreme medical care currently by specialist and I simply come here to report what I'm currently going through and want to potentially help educate others. This is not a diagnosis for you, but something I am experiencing.

I've reported in here for years that I have been feeling worse and worse and worse. I've posted many blood tests, trying to figure out the root cause of my Secondary Polycythemia, as I do NOT abuse TRT. Over the course of 3 years, my well being and everything has gone gradually downhill.

I made many posts in here with no answers, other than "start your log". Ladies & Gentlement, this is FAR deeper than any log could help with.

After 6 months of testing, diving deep into an advanced lipid panel, I believe we have uncovered the starting point to my personal problems with a long road to "maybe" a recovery.

For years, I was self diagnosed myself with TRT. I never abused it, always did the right way (geneza pharma). I ran about 120-150mg/ week for a few years. I started to feel "down" one day. Like a light switch went off and never came back. Zero lidido (dead libido), zero motivation, drained, tired, almost like I had low T symptoms). Fast forward years of donating double red blood cells, high hemoglobin, high hematocrit - I wasn't feeling better anymore. Every 3 months, even after Double RBC donation, my hemoglobin would spike back to 18.3-18.7.

After 4 years, reading & reading & reading, I have finally thrown in the white flag and reached out to a doctor saying, "Doc, all my levels are fine. My DHT, my DHEA, my Progesterone, my testosterone, my estrodial (granted my test levels were at 950 on my last test).

My lipids have been completely jacked up and it's not like I've been eating like total shit (I know people who eat far worse than me with far better lipids). However, today a beast finally reared it's ugly head.

I have ZERO iron in my body. I've been avoiding iron due to the Polycythemia, but my due to donating so much - I had an Iron Saturation level of 2 (13-45%), Ferritin levels of 7 (30-400ng/dl), resulting in unsaturated IBC 361 (112-347).

Doctors are reporting I'm virtually in the worst possible spot I can possibly be and the fact that I'm even functioning is a miracle.

I'm currently seeing specialists for direct iron infusions, but unfortunately, it could potentially be to late for me. Results of this will take some time to see see how my Iron Uptake transitions, but without Iron and the ability to use it (due to the severe polycythemia) I have a very severe uphill climb.

I guess the point of my post, is gentlemen, please use a doctor for this stuff. No matter how smart you think you are, no matter how much research you do, something like this could sneak up on any of you. I don't want anybody to feel the way that I feel on a daily basis and encourage you to do TRT the right way or not at all.
The right way would be through a doctor. Don't rely on these forums other than for situations like mine where others are seeking professional help and can relay medical solutions from real doctors in certain scenarios (and what you're experiencing).

Just asking for some prayers right now. At 37 years old, I've never felt as poorly as I do now. Mentally, physically, spiritually. I leave with, this forum is full of A LOT of good people who mean well. Many of you have reached out. I want to thank you all, but this is now my personal journey and I'll report to all of you, while I can.
@ts06 well thats an interesting story, and you dont want to talk about a LOG thats fine. we are praying for you in the anabolex family.

But truth be told its hard to understand what you're saying because you didnt share bloods
do you have blood work to share with us? and you post it?
 
100% man and it always boggles my mind how people spend more time researching a pool cleaner and not a doctor. just like any professional the top doctors are the ones you want. you don't see Tom Brady getting his knee operated on by some dude he pulled up in his insurance book or off instagram. he flew out thousands of miles to get the best care possible

i will put it this way. if you can get an appointment to see a doctor fast then obviously they aren't very good. a good doctor you will need to wait weeks or even months to see. those are the cream of the crop
 
1) You reply in the past tense regarding the TRT. What has it been more recently?
2) On our TRT shows one thing we recommend, even if you save thousands doing self TRT, is to still get blood tests to monitor for issues.
3) If you DID run a log we'd see just how accurate the statement about your diet is. It DOES seem as though it COULD be better.
 
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