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New bloods as of 7/4/26. Absolutely amazing recovery. Natural LH & FSH remarkably overworking at the moment. This was even before clomid/nolva combo. Most likely the cliff dive from hcg/hmg clearing from the system whilst the balls are still hyperactive allowed the pituitary to kickstart and takeover and prevent receding testosterone production. Will continue clomid/nolva but at much smaller dose and much shorter duration.

Mate this is incredible! That's textbook best case scenario for PCT. Massive W 💪
 
I took this blood early in the morning on 7/4. This was a completely clean window - no hcg/hmg was interfering since I stopped it 4 days ago.

I started my first clomid / nolva combo LATER that day (7/4 at lunch time) without realising that actually my HPTA had already started anyway. Sad to say it really was a waste of buying clomid/nolva to prepare for the non-existing worse.

Overall this was an example of following the PCT protocol textbook and it worked as expected.
 
I took this blood early in the morning on 7/4. This was a completely clean window - no hcg/hmg was interfering since I stopped it 4 days ago.

I started my first clomid / nolva combo LATER that day (7/4 at lunch time) without realising that actually my HPTA had already started anyway. Sad to say it really was a waste of buying clomid/nolva to prepare for the non-existing worse.

Overall this was an example of following the PCT protocol textbook and it worked as expected.

Good point @GHgut4life but the bigger question for me isn't the clomid/nolva timing, its whether the LH/FSH on those bloods was actually endogenous or still residual from the HMG clearing out.

HMG literally contains active FSH and LH (or hCG with LH activity). The half life of FSH from HMG is around 30-40 hours so after 4 days you're looking at 2-3 half lives, most of it should be cleared but maybe not all of it.

Even if the LH/FSH is genuinely coming from the pituitary, one blood test showing recovery doesn't mean the axis is fully restored long term. The pituitary might have kicked in as a rebound response from the sudden drop when HCG/HMG was pulled, but that doesn't guarantee it stays online. Thats the whole reason we run SERMs, to keep the hypothalamus/pituitary firing through the negative feedback loop while everything stabilises.

Either way @Trixtr751 the numbers are looking promising brother, just keep an eye on it and maybe get another set of bloods in a few weeks once the clomid/nolva is done to confirm the axis is holding on its own.

Just follow the PCT protocol and the magic will happen brother 🙏
 
Good point @GHgut4life but the bigger question for me isn't the clomid/nolva timing, its whether the LH/FSH on those bloods was actually endogenous or still residual from the HMG clearing out.

HMG literally contains active FSH and LH (or hCG with LH activity). The half life of FSH from HMG is around 30-40 hours so after 4 days you're looking at 2-3 half lives, most of it should be cleared but maybe not all of it.

Even if the LH/FSH is genuinely coming from the pituitary, one blood test showing recovery doesn't mean the axis is fully restored long term. The pituitary might have kicked in as a rebound response from the sudden drop when HCG/HMG was pulled, but that doesn't guarantee it stays online. Thats the whole reason we run SERMs, to keep the hypothalamus/pituitary firing through the negative feedback loop while everything stabilises.

Either way @Trixtr751 the numbers are looking promising brother, just keep an eye on it and maybe get another set of bloods in a few weeks once the clomid/nolva is done to confirm the axis is holding on its own.

Just follow the PCT protocol and the magic will happen brother 🙏
we need to get you as a VIP here brother you got knowledge
@bss going to talk to admins to upgrade your log and you
 

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