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Orders have been placed Monica is the only one that still hasn’t resumed operations or even given a heads explanation as to what’s going on. What more do you need?
 
Do you have something to show she’s not?
That's not how logic and evidence work.

Proving a negative is often an Argument from Ignorance (or argumentum ad ignorantiam). It mistakenly treats an absence of evidence as evidence of absence, shifting the burden of proof onto the person demanding proof rather than the person making the assertion. Were the assertion is what needs to be proven.

I am all for getting rid of thieving, bad behaving suppliers asap. But you have to do it corrctly with at least minimal of evidence.

There is at least one suppler here that was exelent that dissapeared, but still fulfilled most is not all orders.

Anyway Monica fucked up and I want the admins to see some evidence to take action is she exit scammed while doing so.
 
That's not how logic and evidence work.

Proving a negative is often an Argument from Ignorance (or argumentum ad ignorantiam). It mistakenly treats an absence of evidence as evidence of absence, shifting the burden of proof onto the person demanding proof rather than the person making the assertion. Were the assertion is what needs to be proven.

I am all for getting rid of thieving, bad behaving suppliers asap. But you have to do it corrctly with at least minimal of evidence.

There is at least one suppler here that was exelent that dissapeared, but still fulfilled most is not all orders.

Anyway Monica fucked up and I want the admins to see some evidence to take action is she exit scammed while doing so.
Nice chat gbt response
 
Alot of people in her telegram group have been chasing up their orders with no response. WhatsApp also non responsive.

Bullet dodged for me as I was about to place an order.
 
Her telegram handle was last seen 27th April 5.30am which coincides with her last seen on this forum too. Her telegram group also dead with the admin there saying not to place any new orders until Monica becomes responsive.
 
Another really good suppler on here, Emmy from Semagl. Went off line about the same time, Last reply was 13 of April, then went offline about 21 of April altogether. Something went down at the end of April.
 
Maybe all the same people
Quite possible, but more likely different trading company setup selling form 1-2 Chinese manufacturer of product. Some had different labelling and packaging and product codes and some had the same. They all used the same packaging contractors and forwarders running the same software and holding the same last mile delivery contracts (can see it from tracking prefixes).

It's possible there was a bust or something like that at one of the suppliers to the distributing trading companies. and someone wend down and the rest went dark after sending off most of the orders to the packagers.

Or they oversold supply and on the other side the pricing for packaging contractor and product availability or price changed so it was easier and cheaper to just close down for a while. Some received their stuff some did not, depending how close to the exit the order was made. Then later down the road they may restart with different name. Phoenixing like this in China is somewhat common.

One of these or a mix of these is possible, would never know. But I can tell you that overselling has became a problem as of the and of last year and got worse this year.

Another observation is that the same packagers and forwards are still in place and may be charging more but working with the all new peptide vendors that you are seeing popup especially when they ship HGH.

I can be totally wrong here, these are my deductions, speculations, assumptions and rumours I have heard and having being a an importer of legal, everyday manufactured good from China in 100s of millions on the last 10 years.

This is why sharing information here and anonymous "evidence" is a good idea.
 
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