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[Monica]

Holiday Notice：
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Please note our holiday schedule and order cut-off time below:

• Order cut-off date: February 7
• Holiday period: February 8 – February 24
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  All orders placed and confirmed before February 7 will be processed and shipped as usual, and tracking numbers will be provided.
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  Orders placed during the holiday period will be handled after we resume work.
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  Thank you for your understanding and continued support.
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  Monica

 

[Monica]

New Arrival:
TC 250
Mast 100
Mast 200
Primo 100
Primo 200
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I am back from the holiday, and the first batch is now ready. Welcome all orders!

This batch of quantity is limited. Orders will be confirmed on a first-come, first-served basis. If you need it, please contact me and let me know your plan in advance.

Whatsapp: +852 5444 8479
Telegram: @pepmonica
Signal: @monicaliu.16
Email: [email protected]

 

[TrulsTRT]

So I recently contacted Monica to order some Primo. Not a big order at all, but I always like to test out suppliers before "locking in" with a regular sized one. And boy am I very glad I did!

I live in a country with very strict customs and a high rate of seizures. For this very reason, I always make sure my vendors offer reship. If they don't that is absolutely fine and reasonable, I just move on to someone who does. I was however pleasantly surprised when Monica offered reship, and agreed to move forward with the order - on the 26th of February.

On the 2nd of March she gets in touch and asks about using NL post. I told her my experience was a bit touch and go, sometimes they go through, sometimes they don't. She tells me they have a second freight forwarder, which I am positive to trying out. They do not however have primo available. I ask for a list of products they do have in stock, but everything I am in the market for is sold out. So I tell her I am happy to move forward with the NL post shipment as originally planned, or we could do a refund.

She now tells me I am expected to pay 50% of the reship if something happens - many vendors do this, and I never deal with these vendors for that exact reason. If she had told me 50% reship before taking my money, I would have backed out of the purchase immediately. Instead, she took my money and then backed out of the deal we made. So I tell her I would rather do the refund - and now she does everything she can do to convince me to change my order to something the other freight forwarder has in stock. I tell her I paid for primo with reshipping, because that is what I need. She replies she can have it shipped within two days - but with no reship. If I want reshipping, I need to change what I order. Awesome.

I do NOT recommend this vendor. I did end up getting a refund (20$ less than I paid but whatever). She did offer me HGH instead - with a total value of 5$ LESS than I paid for the primo. And then when I pointed it out she offered me a vial of sewage BAC to go with it.

I have attached screen shots of the highlights of our conversation. Enjoy.

 

[TrulsTRT]

A very important update to the review:

After informing her I would leave said review, she threatened to doxx me. This is absolutely insane?!

 

[Monica]

A very important update to the review:

After informing her I would leave said review, she threatened to doxx me. This is absolutely insane?!

This is absolutely insane, I was the one who was truly threatened from beginning to end. I offered helpful suggestions, available options, and even a full refund. Still got nothing, holy crap!!! What else can I do? I sincerely hope that this guy won't take up everyone's resources on the forum.

 

[TrulsTRT]

I had a feeling this would happen. Here's a transcript of our conversation, not all of it mind you, but not sugar coated or picked with a purpose.

It is a long read, but gives a much fuller picture than the two screenshots provided.

Spoiler: Full Conversation Evidence Log

EVIDENCE LOG – CONVERSATION TRANSCRIPT

Context:
Conversation between Buyer and Monica Liu regarding a purchase of Primo with reship, shipping risk via PostNL, and a later refund dispute.


SECTION 1 — INITIAL DISPUTE

Monica Liu:
"Okay, peace is better for everyone. But if you're unkind, don't blame me for being unjust."

Buyer:
"You offered primo with reship when I paid, knowing where I was located. Who took that away from our deal."

Buyer:
"I paid you right away, I was patient and wanted to work something out. I fail to see where I am being unkind, up until you called me untrustworthy and greedy?"

Monica Liu:
"You know how strict your country's customs are. We are professionals, and PostNL isn't friendly to your country. I suggested you don't use PostNL and use that 100% safe shipping method. But you insisted, even after I told you it's unsafe, and still chose to send it. Because you know that it's not you who will bear the loss, but us."

Buyer:
"No, you offered reship BEFORE I made the purchase. You should have said "no reshipping because we have to use PostNL to send it" and that would've been fine. I even write that in the review."

Buyer:
"You threatening to dox a customer is what is going to absolutely destroy you though. Trust and anonymity. The two biggest things by far in this game."


SECTION 2 — REFUND DISCUSSION

Monica Liu:
"You said you wanted a refund as soon as possible, and I processed it for you immediately. I thought we had resolved the matter, but you still harbor resentment towards me and immediately started filing a lawsuit against me after we completing the payment. I processed your full refund, spent time and effort patiently handling your order, and considered the safety of your package. What did I ultimately get from you?"

Monica Liu:
"You know trust is the most important thing, and I trusted you to return the money. I hoped there was still a shred of genuine affection between us, even if the business deal fell through, there would still be something between us. But what did you do to me? You started to slander and accuse me."

Buyer:
"You did this to yourself. Threatening to dox a customer is absolutely fucking insane."

Monica Liu:
"I didn't actually expose you, but what did you do to me?"

Buyer:
"What did I do to you? I am writing an honest review with screen shots to back it up. Let the people decide?"

Monica Liu:
"Trust is mutual. I spent time and effort on this and even gave you a full refund. What did you do in return?"

Buyer:
"You tell me what I did."

Buyer:
"Have I lied? Gone back on our deal?"

Buyer:
"Threatened to doxx you?"

Monica Liu:
"You tried to ruin my business because of your greed."


SECTION 3 — AGREEMENT DISPUTE

Monica Liu:
"Did I break our agreement? Did I process your refund?"

Buyer:
"What greed? You went back on our deal? I am posting a review with screen shots. I am not lying or making things up."

Buyer:
"You sold me primo with reship."

Buyer:
"Did I get primo with reship?"

Monica Liu:
"Did I refund for you?"

Monica Liu:
"Did I tell you PostNL is not safe?"

Monica Liu:
"Did I tell you change a 100% safe method?"

Buyer:
"When you took the order, did you know where you would have to ship the primo?"

Monica Liu:
"I told you everything."

Buyer:
"When you offered a reship, did you know where you would have to ship the order?"

Buyer:
"What changed for you?"

Buyer:
"I told you what I wanted and where I needed it, you offered a reship."

Buyer:
"Why would you do that?"

Buyer:
"I didn't need the pills or oils you could offer with 100% safe method. I clearly needed primo, which why I bought primo."


SECTION 4 — SHIPPING RISK STATEMENTS

Monica Liu:
"I suggest we process your refund now if you don't want to take the risk. But what about you? You want us to try it out first, even if it's not safe, and we still reship."

Buyer:
"Show me."

Monica Liu:
"PostNL is not safe, why you do insist PostNL? If it is seized, we still reship."

Monica Liu:
"If PostNL fails this time, it will likely fail again next time...."

Buyer:
"Show me where in the conversation you did this?"

Buyer:
"If the package is seized, the loss for us is less than the loss of processing a refund for you now dear."

Buyer:
"This is what you said."

Buyer:
"The loss for you is LESS with a seizure than a refund."

Buyer:
"ALL YOUR WORDS."

Buyer:
"And that is why I told you I was willing to try a shipment."


SECTION 5 — FINAL STATEMENTS

Buyer:
"Listen, I have the entire conversation screenshot. I can share the whole thing word for word in the review if needed. And then the people can decide if I am a greedy untrustworthy customer, or if you lied and went back on our deal."

Buyer:
"You said the loss for you would be LESS with a reship than a refund?!"

Buyer:
"Read the words."

Monica Liu:
"Yes dear, so I refund you now, but you want we ship it first and the reship free. Even if you know it will be unsafe, you still insist this."

Buyer:
"Because you said the loss would be less with a reship."

Buyer:
"If you had said you would prefer a refund, I would've accepted right away."

Buyer:
"You got the words mixed up. Did you mean to say the loss would be less with a refund than a reship?"

Monica Liu:
"It's a very minor communication issue, with no loss to either party. Why do you insist on doing something that damages everyone's reputation?"

Buyer:
"You threatened to doxx me."

Buyer:
"It's the biggest sin in this game."

Monica Liu:
"You threatened to doxx me."

Buyer:
"I never threatened to doxx you."

Buyer:
"I am only sharing what we have talked about. No personal information about you or your address."

Monica Liu:
"If you insist, I respect your choice. Justice resides in the hearts of the people; let everyone judge."

 

[TrulsTRT]

Just a quick update while I wait for my original review and follow up to be approved by mods. Here's the latest screen shots from our conversation. She is trying to get me to remove the review. She's been arguing for hours now.

 

[Monica]

So I recently contacted Monica to order some Primo. Not a big order at all, but I always like to test out suppliers before "locking in" with a regular sized one. And boy am I very glad I did!

I live in a country with very strict customs and a high rate of seizures. For this very reason, I always make sure my vendors offer reship. If they don't that is absolutely fine and reasonable, I just move on to someone who does. I was however pleasantly surprised when Monica offered reship, and agreed to move forward with the order - on the 26th of February.

On the 2nd of March she gets in touch and asks about using NL post. I told her my experience was a bit touch and go, sometimes they go through, sometimes they don't. She tells me they have a second freight forwarder, which I am positive to trying out. They do not however have primo available. I ask for a list of products they do have in stock, but everything I am in the market for is sold out. So I tell her I am happy to move forward with the NL post shipment as originally planned, or we could do a refund.

She now tells me I am expected to pay 50% of the reship if something happens - many vendors do this, and I never deal with these vendors for that exact reason. If she had told me 50% reship before taking my money, I would have backed out of the purchase immediately. Instead, she took my money and then backed out of the deal we made. So I tell her I would rather do the refund - and now she does everything she can do to convince me to change my order to something the other freight forwarder has in stock. I tell her I paid for primo with reshipping, because that is what I need. She replies she can have it shipped within two days - but with no reship. If I want reshipping, I need to change what I order. Awesome.

I do NOT recommend this vendor. I did end up getting a refund (20$ less than I paid but whatever). She did offer me HGH instead - with a total value of 5$ LESS than I paid for the primo. And then when I pointed it out she offered me a vial of sewage BAC to go with it.

I have attached screen shots of the highlights of our conversation. Enjoy.

I would like to clarify the situation so other members understand what happened.

The customer is located in Norway, which is known for having very strict customs and a relatively high seizure rate. Because of this, we informed the customer that shipping Primo via NL Post carries a considerable risk.

We suggested using our safer freight forwarder instead. Unfortunately, that route currently does not support Primo, so we offered alternative products that could be shipped through the safer channel. The original order value was $335, we offered the customer an alternative shipment with products valued at $338 so the order could still be shipped through the safer route.

The customer preferred to proceed with NL Post. Based on our previous shipping experience to Norway, we believed the probability of seizure was very high. For this reason, we decided it would be irresponsible to ship a package that we expected might not arrive.

No package was ever shipped and the order was refunded. The negative review is based on a cancelled transaction. We try to avoid sending a shipment that we believed had a high chance of being seized. $315 reveived, the small difference in the refunded amount was due to payment processing or transfer fees.

We always try to be transparent about shipping risks, especially to countries with strict customs. Our priority is safe delivery rather than risky shipments. Rather than sending high-risk packages that may face long delays or customs seizure, we prefer to cancel the order and issue a refund. Our intention is simply to prevent unnecessary losses for our customers.

We appreciate all members who understand that sometimes cancelling a high-risk shipment is the more responsible decision. Thank you everyone!

 

[Monica]

Just a quick update while I wait for my original review and follow up to be approved by mods. Here's the latest screen shots from our conversation. She is trying to get me to remove the review. She's been arguing for hours now.

I would like to make one final clarification:

The order was never shipped and the customer already received a refund. Despite this, the customer continues to post additional comments and screenshots while our private conversation is still ongoing.

At this point the discussion has been going on for hours and it seems the customer is escalating the situation publicly even though the transaction has already been resolved.

My intention in asking about removing the review was simply to avoid unnecessary drama and not take up forum resources, since the order was cancelled and refunded before shipment.

I respect the forum rules and will leave the situation to the moderators to review and will not continue the argument here.

Thank you to the community for understanding.

 

[TrulsTRT]

Thank you for the clarification. I agree that you did end up refunding me most of what I originally paid. I still feel like you are ignoring a few glaring issues, and a such will post three simple questions here publicly for you to answer:

1. Did you offer a reship for Primo sent to Norway at the time of purchase, knowing full well you would have to ship it to me, the customer?

2. Did you threaten to doxx me because I told you I would post this review?

3. Did it take you hours of arguing about picking alternative products, reship policy etc. before finally relenting and sending me the refund?

 

[TrulsTRT]

Sorry, I forgot a pretty important and final question:

4. Did you, or did you not, tell me in plain English that it would be CHEAPER for you to do a reship, than a refund?

This is the ONLY reason I said we could try shipping it instead of issuing a refund. At that point I had already asked for a refund twice.

 

[TrulsTRT]

Also adding a screen shot to show what happened the very first time I asked for a refund!

 

[GHgut4life]

Thank you for the clarification. I agree that you did end up refunding me most of what I originally paid. I still feel like you are ignoring a few glaring issues, and a such will post three simple questions here publicly for you to answer:

1. Did you offer a reship for Primo sent to Norway at the time of purchase, knowing full well you would have to ship it to me, the customer?

2. Did you threaten to doxx me because I told you I would post this review?

3. Did it take you hours of arguing about picking alternative products, reship policy etc. before finally relenting and sending me the refund?

Sorry, I forgot a pretty important and final question:

4. Did you, or did you not, tell me in plain English that it would be CHEAPER for you to do a reship, than a refund?

This is the ONLY reason I said we could try shipping it instead of issuing a refund. At that point I had already asked for a refund twice.

You got the refund right brother?
@TrulsTRT whats the problem?

Norway is very hard to get into, I'm surprised they shipped to you. I would avoid norway customs period.

where is the doxxing threat? share

 

[TrulsTRT]

Look at my screen shot where I mention the threat of doxxing. I am completely fine with you backing this vendor as a moderator, my main objective here is to leave an honest review with screen shots so other potential customers can read about both good and bad experiences. I am sure with time there will be plenty of good experiences in this thread as well.

 

[GHgut4life]

Look at my screen shot where I mention the threat of doxxing. I am completely fine with you backing this vendor as a moderator, my main objective here is to leave an honest review with screen shots so other potential customers can read about both good and bad experiences. I am sure with time there will be plenty of good experiences in this thread as well.

We do back vendors but we back our anabolex brothers as well
@TrulsTRT I did read this but I dont see which part is the doxxing?

China Supplier - U-PEPTIDE-High Quality Peptides, Steroid Oil & tablets, SARMs, Raw Materials Available

Holiday Notice： ‎ Please note our holiday schedule and order cut-off time below: Order cut-off date: February 7 Holiday period: February 8 – February 24 ‎ All orders placed and confirmed before February 7 will be processed and shipped as usual, and tracking numbers will be provided. ‎ Orders...

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Also adding a screen shot to show what happened the very first time I asked for a refund!

 

[Monica]

Thank you for the clarification. I agree that you did end up refunding me most of what I originally paid. I still feel like you are ignoring a few glaring issues, and a such will post three simple questions here publicly for you to answer:

1. Did you offer a reship for Primo sent to Norway at the time of purchase, knowing full well you would have to ship it to me, the customer?

2. Did you threaten to doxx me because I told you I would post this review?

3. Did it take you hours of arguing about picking alternative products, reship policy etc. before finally relenting and sending me the refund?

Thank you for raising your concerns. I would like to clarify several points for the community.

1. At no time did I promise to reship a package sent via NL Post if it were seized. From the beginning, I explained that NL Post shipments to Norway carry a high risk due to strict customs inspections. Because of this, I recommended using our safer shipping channel instead. Our reship policy applies to the safer shipping route that we know is reliable. If that route encounters an issue, we will absolutely take responsibility and arrange a reship. However, it would not make sense for us to knowingly send a package through a route we believe is unsafe and then promise unlimited reshipments if it fails.

At that time we had just returned from holiday and the safer forwarder had not resumed operations yet, so I asked whether you were willing to wait for that option. You confirmed that waiting was acceptable. Screenshots of this part of the conversation are attached for transparency.

2. At no point did I publish or reveal your personal information. None of the screenshots I shared include your real name, address, or any private identifying details. If there is any place where you believe your personal information was exposed, please point it out specifically so moderators can review it. The screenshots were shared only to clarify the timeline and context of the transaction.

3. The alternative options I provided were intended as solutions to help complete the order in a safer way. Since the originally requested product was not available through the safer shipping route at that time, I suggested other products that could be shipped through that channel. Our intention was simply to provide options so the order could proceed with lower shipping risk and to find a practical solution for both sides.

4. Even after I explained the risks of shipping to Norway via NL Post, you still preferred to try that route. Based on our previous shipping experience, we believed the probability of customs seizure was very high. For this reason, we decided it would not be responsible to knowingly send a package through a route that was likely to fail. Instead, we cancelled the shipment and processed a refund.

The refund has already been completed and the issue has been resolved. I’m not sure why he continues to create conflict here after receiving the refund. From the beginning, we tried to communicate and offered multiple solutions. Eventually, we agreed to process the refund and it was completed.

At this point, the matter should already be closed.

 

[GHgut4life]

Thank you for raising your concerns. I would like to clarify several points for the community.

1. At no time did I promise to reship a package sent via NL Post if it were seized. From the beginning, I explained that NL Post shipments to Norway carry a high risk due to strict customs inspections. Because of this, I recommended using our safer shipping channel instead. Our reship policy applies to the safer shipping route that we know is reliable. If that route encounters an issue, we will absolutely take responsibility and arrange a reship. However, it would not make sense for us to knowingly send a package through a route we believe is unsafe and then promise unlimited reshipments if it fails.

At that time we had just returned from holiday and the safer forwarder had not resumed operations yet, so I asked whether you were willing to wait for that option. You confirmed that waiting was acceptable. Screenshots of this part of the conversation are attached for transparency.

2. At no point did I publish or reveal your personal information. None of the screenshots I shared include your real name, address, or any private identifying details. If there is any place where you believe your personal information was exposed, please point it out specifically so moderators can review it. The screenshots were shared only to clarify the timeline and context of the transaction.

3. The alternative options I provided were intended as solutions to help complete the order in a safer way. Since the originally requested product was not available through the safer shipping route at that time, I suggested other products that could be shipped through that channel. Our intention was simply to provide options so the order could proceed with lower shipping risk and to find a practical solution for both sides.

4. Even after I explained the risks of shipping to Norway via NL Post, you still preferred to try that route. Based on our previous shipping experience, we believed the probability of customs seizure was very high. For this reason, we decided it would not be responsible to knowingly send a package through a route that was likely to fail. Instead, we cancelled the shipment and processed a refund.

The refund has already been completed and the issue has been resolved. I’m not sure why he continues to create conflict here after receiving the refund. From the beginning, we tried to communicate and offered multiple solutions. Eventually, we agreed to process the refund and it was completed.

At this point, the matter should already be closed.

@TrulsTRT looks like you got a refund there and she didnt promise you a Norway reship, who would lol @Monica

 

[TrulsTRT]

We do back vendors but we back our anabolex brothers as well
@TrulsTRT I did read this but I dont see which part is the doxxing?

China Supplier - U-PEPTIDE-High Quality Peptides, Steroid Oil & tablets, SARMs, Raw Materials Available

Holiday Notice： ‎ Please note our holiday schedule and order cut-off time below: Order cut-off date: February 7 Holiday period: February 8 – February 24 ‎ All orders placed and confirmed before February 7 will be processed and shipped as usual, and tracking numbers will be provided. ‎ Orders...

anabolex.com

"I still have your name and address, don't force me to do this. ".

I don't know about you guys, but it is very hard to read this as anything but a threat to release that information in some way shape or form.

Look, I appreciate you backing both vendors and customers. I am extremely confident other potential customers will find this experience useful in some way or another.
Maybe I am an untrustworthy, greedy, resentful individual. If so, the information is all here for people to make their own minds up, thankfully.

 

[TrulsTRT]

@TrulsTRT looks like you got a refund there and she didnt promise you a Norway reship, who would lol @Monica

She did promise me a reship to Norway when I purchased the order. Before I paid. She knew what products I paid for, and said that they would provide a reship. To Norway. Before money exchanged hands.

 

[Monica]

I would like to clarify this again for the community.

I believe I’ve handled this situation responsibly. The refund has already been completed and the issue has been resolved from my side.

I have not released or exposed any of the customer’s personal information. I take customer privacy very seriously and would never publish or share a customer’s personal details. None of the screenshots I shared contain your real name, address, or any identifying information.

At this point, the issue itself has already been resolved. I’m not sure what the purpose is of continuing to repeat the same accusations.

Out of respect for the forum and the moderators, I won’t continue arguing here. If the moderators feel it’s necessary to review the situation, I’m fully willing to cooperate.

For my part, I’ll move forward and focus on supporting customers and providing good service.