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dylangemelli

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you definitely want to go with both rad and gw on this one... i prefer acp-105 personally in there but your diet ultimately dictates things, regardless of what you run.,..
 

Mobster

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Oh...I almost forgot to include my goals!!! Going too Fast.

Right now I am maintaining weight of 224'ish. Since I did not accurately measure or keep track of my BF last cycle, I can't say for sure how much muscle I gained, but I would guess 5-10 lbs and kept 5-8 so far.

I would like to gain another 5-10 lbs of muscle while trimming "some" fat (recomp), BUT with winter around the corner, I am not planning on cutting too much. I am going to take the winter to continue to gain muscle and then accurately time a cutting cycle for Spring 2023.

Next cycle however, I am going to accurately measure my BF before, during and after the cycle. That is one of a few mistakes I made last time.
The kind of info we need
 

Maverick602

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you definitely want to go with both rad and gw on this one... i prefer acp-105 personally in there but your diet ultimately dictates things, regardless of what you run.,..
I am doing research on Testolone and Vasculine.

Also considering a straight test and equipoise cycle

So many choices....more to come on this.

A few thoughts on what I learned with my last cycle (this cycle LOG) - Going forward I want to use compounds that are easy on my hair. I lost enough and I am not ready to shave and go bald. I did that for shits and giggles for the first 18 months of the pandemic and learned I can pull off the bald look, but like what hair I have left.

Secondly, I do not like elevated BP. MK677 jacked my BP and I was not a fan. I want to minimize spikes in my BP.

Third, I need to try to keep my HDL as high as possible because LDG crushed mine. That said, I had a full cardiac workup (and I mean full) after an odd scare two years ago that turned out to be stress related. I have ZERO plaque in my arteries despite low HDL. My cardiologist told me I have the arteries of a 19 year old and should never seen heart disease. That said, I don't want to carry undo risk and crash the shit out of my HDL thinking I am invincible. (One side of my family has a terrible heart, while the other side is rock solid. It seems I have the rock solid heart, but I want to protect it.)

Lastly, I do not want to gain insane amounts of muscle. I gained up to 15 lbs on my last cycle (water included) and I had to buy two new suits!

Anyway...just sharing some thoughts.

Oh...and my tests from letsgetchecked.com arrived today. Collecting and sending them out tomorrow. More to come....
 

Maverick602

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great to see you back @Maverick602

if you want to gain 10lgs of muscle you're not going to do it with lgd/ostarine

but 3-5lbs is more reasonable

I would go with a 12 week cycle
20mgs cardarine gw/day
50mgs ostarine mk/day
10mgs anabolicum lgd/day

if you can manage it, swap out 1/2 the ostarine for testolone rad140 that will also work

20mgs cardarine gw/day
25mgs ostarine mk/day
25mgs testolone rad/day
10mgs anabolicum lgd/day
7caps n2guard/day organ liver support

and stack TrT on top of this

your last log was awesome so looking forward to new one
Thanks bro. Great stuff. I appreciate the time you spent to offer assistance. I am taking this all in.
 

Maverick602

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bros i would do the cycle that worked last time and log it

Great point. That was my first thought. Stick with what works, right? At the same time, there is a lure to try out new compounds. :) Taking it all in and figuring out what my next move. Your input helps! Thanks bro
 

dylangemelli

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I am doing research on Testolone and Vasculine.

Also considering a straight test and equipoise cycle

So many choices....more to come on this.

A few thoughts on what I learned with my last cycle (this cycle LOG) - Going forward I want to use compounds that are easy on my hair. I lost enough and I am not ready to shave and go bald. I did that for shits and giggles for the first 18 months of the pandemic and learned I can pull off the bald look, but like what hair I have left.

Secondly, I do not like elevated BP. MK677 jacked my BP and I was not a fan. I want to minimize spikes in my BP.

Third, I need to try to keep my HDL as high as possible because LDG crushed mine. That said, I had a full cardiac workup (and I mean full) after an odd scare two years ago that turned out to be stress related. I have ZERO plaque in my arteries despite low HDL. My cardiologist told me I have the arteries of a 19 year old and should never seen heart disease. That said, I don't want to carry undo risk and crash the shit out of my HDL thinking I am invincible. (One side of my family has a terrible heart, while the other side is rock solid. It seems I have the rock solid heart, but I want to protect it.)

Lastly, I do not want to gain insane amounts of muscle. I gained up to 15 lbs on my last cycle (water included) and I had to buy two new suits!

Anyway...just sharing some thoughts.

Oh...and my tests from letsgetchecked.com arrived today. Collecting and sending them out tomorrow. More to come....
As with ANYTHING we use, we all are subject to trial and error based upon our own specific body response so the good thing is you are learning your body and what it can and cannot handle...

GW501516 was first created to treat obesity and cholesterol so that will be a huge help to you if you implement that in your cycle... you wont put on that kind of size with a general sarms stack if you stay away from the lgd's and s23... those three have the potential to add a lot of size but as you experienced, mk677 likely gave water weight in that number of weight gained... generally all sarms are extremely dry aside from 677 so you should be just fine in that regard as well...

keep in mind that ANY steroid can cause hair loss if you are prone to mpb in any way so steroids in general are going to be a lot harder on the hair than sarms ever could or would be...
 

Maverick602

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As with ANYTHING we use, we all are subject to trial and error based upon our own specific body response so the good thing is you are learning your body and what it can and cannot handle...

GW501516 was first created to treat obesity and cholesterol so that will be a huge help to you if you implement that in your cycle... you wont put on that kind of size with a general sarms stack if you stay away from the lgd's and s23... those three have the potential to add a lot of size but as you experienced, mk677 likely gave water weight in that number of weight gained... generally all sarms are extremely dry aside from 677 so you should be just fine in that regard as well...

keep in mind that ANY steroid can cause hair loss if you are prone to mpb in any way so steroids in general are going to be a lot harder on the hair than sarms ever could or would be...
Amen bro. It's all trial and error until we have personal experience with any PED. Per my last cycle, I know how I respond to Mk677, lgd-4033 and Mk2866 which is why I am certainly considering a repeat of everything BUT mk677.

I am definitely adding in GW50516 to any cycle I do now because of the benefits you mentioned. Since I have issues with lower HDL, I think I need to use GW going forward. I believe it is a smart addition regardless of the cycle.

That said, I am also curious regarding Rad-140 (Testolone).

Truth be told I can't stop thinking about @starboy 's suggestion:

20mgs cardarine gw/day
25mgs ostarine mk/day
25mgs testolone rad/day
10mgs anabolicum lgd/day
7caps n2guard/day organ liver support

Update...bloods are on their way to letsgetchecked.com! Should have the results soon. Once received, I will post my final post on this LOG and start another....YAWWWWWW!
 

dylangemelli

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Amen bro. It's all trial and error until we have personal experience with any PED. Per my last cycle, I know how I respond to Mk677, lgd-4033 and Mk2866 which is why I am certainly considering a repeat of everything BUT mk677.

I am definitely adding in GW50516 to any cycle I do now because of the benefits you mentioned. Since I have issues with lower HDL, I think I need to use GW going forward. I believe it is a smart addition regardless of the cycle.

That said, I am also curious regarding Rad-140 (Testolone).

Truth be told I can't stop thinking about @starboy 's suggestion:

20mgs cardarine gw/day
25mgs ostarine mk/day
25mgs testolone rad/day
10mgs anabolicum lgd/day
7caps n2guard/day organ liver support

Update...bloods are on their way to letsgetchecked.com! Should have the results soon. Once received, I will post my final post on this LOG and start another....YAWWWWWW!
awesome bro... you can go with whatever stack you prefer! rad140 is the most popular sarm at this time... watch this video i did on it being the king of sarms...
 

Tazz

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Dylan’s video will help you on RAD. Only use our forum approved sponsored sources like sarms.forsale and umbrella labs!
 

Maverick602

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Pretty sure I am going with this cycle next, with a mix of Umbrella Labs and Sarms4Sale product. I have 1-2 bottle of each S4S LGD, Ostarine and Carnadine left over from my last cycle so I am going to use that in combo with the balance from Umbrella Labs. (I want to try their polycell formula because the regular formula tastes like ass.)

20mgs cardarine gw/day
25mgs ostarine mk/day
25mgs testolone rad/day
10mgs anabolicum lgd/day

Upon researching Rad140, I have one concern and question. Since it was designed as a male contraceptive and will probably crash my test levels, I also heard it can crash estrogen levels as well.

Since I am not sure I will start TRT, which would take care of this I believe, I am wondering how I should combat a potential crash in estrogen.

As far as TRT goes, I am hedging my bets on this while I wait for my bloods to come back. I just want to be sure I am doing the right thing with TRT because once you're on....you're ON!

Thoughts?

Thanks bros!
 

RealQuadzilla40

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Pretty sure I am going with this cycle next, with a mix of Umbrella Labs and Sarms4Sale product. I have 1-2 bottle of each S4S LGD, Ostarine and Carnadine left over from my last cycle so I am going to use that in combo with the balance from Umbrella Labs. (I want to try their polycell formula because the regular formula tastes like ass.)

20mgs cardarine gw/day
25mgs ostarine mk/day
25mgs testolone rad/day
10mgs anabolicum lgd/day

Upon researching Rad140, I have one concern and question. Since it was designed as a male contraceptive and will probably crash my test levels, I also heard it can crash estrogen levels as well.

Since I am not sure I will start TRT, which would take care of this I believe, I am wondering how I should combat a potential crash in estrogen.

As far as TRT goes, I am hedging my bets on this while I wait for my bloods to come back. I just want to be sure I am doing the right thing with TRT because once you're on....you're ON!

Thoughts?

Thanks bros!
I would still do 100mgs testosterone/week self TRT test enan or test cyp imo

but testolone rad wont crash your estrogen too much I used it no problems with E2

@dylangemelli can chime in here but I think your cycle is good already
 

Maverick602

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Perfect. I love gathering data and experiences and calculating what I feel may work best for me. Love this place! Thanks for you input.

I am now thinking of swapping out one of those compounds with something else and adding in TRT.

I got my bloods back quickly! It may have taken letsgetchecked.com a while to get the test itself in my hands, but they received my sample the day after I sent it and I had my results the second day! Crazy fast. Love LGC!

Anyway...my test level is higher than it was BEFORE this cycle that crashed it! So weird. Two days ago it was 600!!! If you look back to my original post I started at 428 and was prescribed TRT through a reputable and responsible hormone wellness/anti-aging doc. My low T symptoms were mild, so I was and still am hedging my bets about getting on permanently. More to come on that...

Anyway, I am not thinking of adjusting this next cycle, but FIRST, I am going to finish THIS log over the next couple days and start a new one :)

I will circle back soon.

Thanks again for everyone's help! Thanks bros!
 

dylangemelli

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I would still do 100mgs testosterone/week self TRT test enan or test cyp imo

but testolone rad wont crash your estrogen too much I used it no problems with E2

@dylangemelli can chime in here but I think your cycle is good already
yes, rad140 should not really have any impact positive or negative on estrogen and i dont see any issue with adding trt here but thats completely up to him on his call... with or without, it would be just fine
 

Fella Finn

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yes, rad140 should not really have any impact positive or negative on estrogen and i dont see any issue with adding trt here but thats completely up to him on his call... with or without, it would be just fine
I agree, RAD should not have any effect there. I see no problem implementing testosterone here as it stacks very well with Sarms but as you said, it is entirely up to him on whether or not he feels he wants to do that. Either way, you should see tremendous results
 

Maverick602

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Some of my bloods are in:

My Bloods Pre-cycle (4/1):Mid-Cycle BloodsPost-Cycle Bloods
Test - 428Test - 72Test - 604
Free Androgen Index- 65Free Androgen Index - 41.81Free Androgen Index - 52.40
SHBG - N/ASHBG - 9.44SHBG - 40
LDL - 100LDL - 142Forthcoming
HDL - 35HDL - 16Forthcoming
Triglycerides - 90Triglycerides - 227Forthcoming

I am excited about this because I am not going to start TRT!!! However, I am going to add Test to my next cycle :)

That said, please tell me how the hell my post-cycle test level is 100-170 points higher than any level I experienced with 12 months PRIOR to my first PED cycle in 15 years!??!? As a reminder, before I rejoined Anabolex and considered PED's I was going to a legit hormone wellness doc for a year because of low energy, low libido, seemingly lose in muscle mass, etc. A total of three full hormone panels in 9 months and the BEST test level was 428!

The only thing I can come up with is that the 4 weeks of Nolvadex and N2Generate were a true boost. WTF!? Hey....I am not complaining, but this is weird, no?

Does anyone have a clinical opinion about this or personal experience they can share?


PS: once I receive the cholesterol test results, I will post my final cycle report, but I wanted to get this out there now.
 
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