Sustanon PIP

[kobe1919]

Im new to the forum, I have been taking Sus 250 on and off for years. The last couple years I have noticed the PIP has become almost unbearable. I have tried a few different labs and its still the same. I used to run deca and eq with is sometimes but now have switched to strictly sus 250 for an injectable.
Any Idea why the pip is so bad now and was non existent before.
Any Ideas on what to do instead.

Thanks

 

[kobe1919]

I forgot to add, the flu like symptoms for a couple days post pin.

 

[dylangemelli]

the mix of esters can be problematic for some.. sustanon has always had more PIP occurrence than any other form of test aside from TNE and at times, test prop....

it could be the carrier oil used OR, at times, some UGL's will have a higher dose/concentration than the label actually says, which certainly will cause more PIP

understand that sustanon offers NO added benefit whatsoever over any other form of test nor will it provide any more gains than other forms of test.. there s NOTHING special about it aside from being of mix of 4 esters

 

[kobe1919]

Thank you. It used to be fine with the same lab then all of a sudden any lab I try is very painful.
instead of sus250, what would you recommend.
Somthing else I read was that mixing it with deca takes away the PIP. T/F? I really dont want to start taking the Deca again.

I appreciate your help

 

[dylangemelli]

Thank you. It used to be fine with the same lab then all of a sudden any lab I try is very painful.
instead of sus250, what would you recommend.
Somthing else I read was that mixing it with deca takes away the PIP. T/F? I really dont want to start taking the Deca again.

I appreciate your help

completely unnecssary.. as i said, theres no added purpose to sustanon unless perhaps its just for trt and even then, test cypionate is the better option and thats what i would use in general...

 

[kobe1919]

ok I will try the CYP thx

 

[sambee38]

Im new to the forum, I have been taking Sus 250 on and off for years. The last couple years I have noticed the PIP has become almost unbearable. I have tried a few different labs and its still the same. I used to run deca and eq with is sometimes but now have switched to strictly sus 250 for an injectable.
Any Idea why the pip is so bad now and was non existent before.
Any Ideas on what to do instead.

Thanks

I forgot to add, the flu like symptoms for a couple days post pin.

ok I will try the CYP thx

@kobe1919 welcome to the anabolex.com forums!

Sustanon has gotten up in PIP due to the propionate ester.
I suggest you switch to cypionate or you can stay with sustanon but you need to decrease inflammatory foods and high cortisol training. That will impact your swelling at the injection site too.

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[Mobster]

Switch brands. Never had this issue

 

[SteveSmi]

Any Idea why the pip is so bad now and was non existent before.

The same reason why you could get stung by a wasp today and nothing will happen to you but next week you get stung by the exact same wasp and you end up with anaphylactic shock in the hospital dying

allergies change minute by minute hour to hour weekly by weekly and in this case you've developed an allergy to the gear that you're pinning so it's time to change up what you're taking as simple as that

 

[CEO]

Bros its called test flu and PIP
very common you should try using something else

 

[ROIDDERS]

if you don't agree with something then stop taking it
in the meantime you can take some Benadryl and see if that helps

 

[chesty]

honestly I would just dump the gear
go check out our approved sources they have quality products

 

[Ulter]

check out domestic supply
their gear is the cleanest you will find and very smooth

 

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[e2]

I would get a log Journal up in document exactly what's going on
show us the pictures of any rashes or feverish things that you're getting

 

[2Thick]

log this for sure
this way we can kind of see what you're taking and what it's causing to give you the best advice

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

I'm looking forward to seeing your next cycle experience
you can also start logging things as you go along

 

[MONSTRO]

Monstro says try another source
and log your experience

 

[JasonPriest]

domestic supply has high quality products
from hgh, to steroids to ancillaries
check them out

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro i hope you add tren on your next cycle
that is the best and use geneza pharma/napsgear