I'm on TRT and considering doing my first cycle

[Pancreas]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

 

[Mobster]

Let's start with this:

1. First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months

That's a great level for cream. Well above anything I'd expect to see from a TRT clinic

2. but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown,
You wouldn't be on TRT so obviously it was low or shutdown. That's kinda the point

3. but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg
Say what? It's not mg but ng as you say above. Do you mean your levels dropped to 125ng??

 

[Pancreas]

Yes 125ng

 

[Pancreas]

Let's start with this:

1. First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months

That's a great level for cream. Well above anything I'd expect to see from a TRT clinic

2. but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown,
You wouldn't be on TRT so obviously it was low or shutdown. That's kinda the point

3. but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg
Say what? It's not mg but ng as you say above. Do you mean your levels dropped to 125ng??

My point is that I started on the cream just to test the waters, it had me at 1280ng total, but obviously, in the beginning, my natural testosterone which was 250ng before, was not shutdown yet, so it was adding up to that.

Overtime, the cream stopped working to produce the same high levels, even though I was doing the same regimen, nothing changed, at one point I was as low as 125ng, worse than when I was natty

So I doubled the cream dose, and that just raised me to 350ng, so I switched to injections.

I have read this anecdote from other people on the cream, for some reason, either your body stops absorbing the cream or it stops working, probably due absorption, whereas with the injection, it always delivers good levels

 

[GHgut4life]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

Yes 125ng

My point is that I started on the cream just to test the waters, it had me at 1280ng total, but obviously, in the beginning, my natural testosterone which was 250ng before, was not shutdown yet, so it was adding up to that.

Overtime, the cream stopped working to produce the same high levels, even though I was doing the same regimen, nothing changed, at one point I was as low as 125ng, worse than when I was natty

So I doubled the cream dose, and that just raised me to 350ng, so I switched to injections.

I have read this anecdote from other people on the cream, for some reason, either your body stops absorbing the cream or it stops working, probably due absorption, whereas with the injection, it always delivers good levels

I think you have good options for cycles but TRT is the base right? we need to see your whole TRT log before we really start talking about cycles, right? like yea you do this or that but its all guesses for us in the end of it all
@Pancreas start a new thread with your TRT log so we can understand you better and help you, 10min to get one up here is how TO

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[SteveSmi]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

what you are describing is simply a blast and cruise. The blast phase is like a cycle, and then the cruise phase is back to your normal TRT. Lots of people do that. You can check out the other logs on here, start your own log, and let's see what you got.

 

[2Thick]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

I don't see why you shouldn't do your first cycle. You're 41 years old. It's not like you're 21. I don't see the big deal at all. Increase your testosterone, do some Anavar, sure. And then Primobolan though, I would do at least 250mg.

 

[Ulter]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

you can certainly run a cycle, I would do 300-400 mg of testosterone. That sounds good, but with primo or equipoise, I would push it at least 300 mg to get the most out of either.

 

[Mobster]

TRT really needs to be between 300 and 900ng/dl.

 

[CEO]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

Bros, it will be very important to get blood work done during and after if you want to do it the healthy way. Blasting and cruising is not the best and healthy thing to do, but if you manage it with proper blood work and you manage your health, it can definitely pay off.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I've been on TRT for 3 years now. I'm 41 years old.

First, I started with compounded cream which had me at 1280ng total for 6 months, but overtime, it stopped working, or maybe my natty test was shutdown, but despite, perfect cleaning, washing and application, increased dose, it dropped my test to 125mg

Switched to injections, started with 100mg which had me at 750ng. Overtime, I felt more comfortable and would bump the dose little by little to 110, 120, 130, etc, always split into 2 injections per week.

When I was doing 130mg, my total test after 3 days of injection was 950ng and 25 free. I seem to aromatize easy though my estradiol was at 70, but I have no issues. Erections and libido are great. It seems my body does well on higher estrogen.

Now I'm doing 140-145mg a week, plan to stay here for a while, I will have to do labs next month, I suspect to be between 1000-1200ng. Once my testosterone was in the 900s, that's when I started notice improvements in gains and fat loss, subtle, but I could see the difference compared to when I was doing 100mg and wondering if TRT even does anything

It seems a bit of a hyper responder and I do better at the upper ranger of the normal range.

I'm with a clinic, so they are open minded and more accepting

I'm considering doing a 12-16 week cycle, then return to my regular TRT dose but my main concern is E2. I'd rather not use AI.

My idea was to double my TRT to 300mg and finish it with 25mg Anavar for 6 weeks and see how I respond to this. Another option

- 300mg test a week
- 100mg primo
- anavar 25mg for 6 weeks

Primo mainly to control AI more than anything

Maybe Masteron could be used, but I keep hearing all this hair loss risk. I don't have balding genetics, but have a bit of corner recession

a lot of people blast in cruise for many years, but at the end of the day, you want to make sure you're always on top of your blood work, you're donating blood, and you're taking time off and taking breaks. That is, of course, if you wanted to do it the healthy way.