from all the suppliers on here i don’t think anyone has actually got scammed from what i’ve read? i had some of the gear tested from a seperate vendor and then also one on here a separate one (this vendor) with blood work attached showing it’s consistent with the quality. i am from australia and a lot of people use roidsafe or imedical for there pathology requests as doctors usually wont provide you with the full panel you ask for, usually only providing bits and pieces. it seems the vendors have all stopped shipping around the same time, some still answering messages some not, the ones responding have all said they are unable to ship and have paused taking orders. They will resume orders when they can, this happened late last year and the vendors did fulfil the promises of shipments, do i think the vendors should refund orders that haven’t shipped? 100% yes they should but they have said no and from what i’ve read nothing from anyone messages confirmed they agreed to do that so i guess it’ll be a waiting game. A seperate vendor to this one (monica) i reached out to to thank for sending me the gear and the test being positive hasn’t responded so i don’t see how they would be scamming. Just to put it in perspective china also has janoshik domestic service, do you really think they would pay the ridiculous DHL shipping charge to send it to the czech republic with the amount of active members on this forum or they would just use there local service?, you can also see the picture attached in this particular one is the sample tub requested by janoshik im pretty sure the chinese would use a different one, and the one i used for Monica’s is from PED talk australia (you can check yourself). I don’t really understand why you are think everyone trying to help the community is scamming, isn’t the point of this forum supposed to help us all get the best possible contacts and discuss our delegations to keep the vendors in check or is the purpose different?. I don’t understand the hostility