1 thread that I made saying I was using them, after that I have said nothing else on this forum positive about them, I have questioned claims of people saying they bought a specific thing in a dosage they dont sell or saying they paid prices they don't I charge taking a look at the website would confirm it's a false claim, with so many other claims that seem legit why make something up. I also said multiple times I'm not even using them right now, I'm currently running gear from meta-pharma and when that is gone I have 5 vials of para pharma TESTO C 250 that I got in a teamroids giveaway promo they were doing and I'm excited to give the para pharama a try and see if it lives up to the hype. I probably won't us them again I've found other sources with great prices and good reviews so I won't chance it with them again.