Approved Log First Testosterone Cycle Log

[Mobster]

Always better as a pic than a .pdf

 

[SteveSmi]

Not sure what went wrong with the PDF but here are pics.
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@CaliAnabolic hcg will delay recovery. it doesn't speed it up. you are still early in pct. i would stay away from hcg, run the SERM and add a strong T booster. also next time you need to run LH and FSH too

 

[Ulter]

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big mistake using hcg in pct. its like getting on steroids for pct. its a hormone. you stopped it how long ago? it takes time to be out of your system @CaliAnabolic

 

[CEO]

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bros test levels low but that okay in pct. @CaliAnabolic Keep an eye on that rebounding. I think you got the blood work done at the worst time during PCT. It's only going to get better from here as your body recovers.

 

[ballin2504]

Thank you for posting these up. It’s really good to see people taking care of themselves and getting blood work done.

 

[ROIDDERS]

@GHgut4life my estrogen level is at the bottom of the first slide. I’m slightly lower than the mid point.

@CaliAnabolic it's better to have estrogen on the lower end. During this point your PCT is about giving you a soft landing so you don't want to crash it but you don't want it to be high either.

 

[2Thick]

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a bit too early to get bloods. you want to give it 3-4 weeks post pct to get them done. too early for your body to start bouncing @CaliAnabolic

 

[CaliAnabolic]

big mistake using hcg in pct. its like getting on steroids for pct. its a hormone. you stopped it how long ago? it takes time to be out of your system @CaliAnabolic

@Ulter I stopped hCG and started Enclomiphene about four weeks ago. I’ve always heard that hCG helps kickstart your natural testosterone production. Even my endocrinologist recommended it. Am I wrong? Do you recommend going straight to Enclomiphene right after your last testosterone Shot?

 

[Ulter]

@Ulter I stopped hCG and started Enclomiphene about four weeks ago. I’ve always heard that hCG helps kickstart your natural testosterone production. Even my endocrinologist recommended it. Am I wrong? Do you recommend going straight to Enclomiphene right after your last testosterone Shot?

yes you and your endocrinologist are wrong. no such thing as kickstarting your hpta. i mean the bloodwork proves both of you wrong here

 

[CaliAnabolic]

yes you and your endocrinologist are wrong. no such thing as kickstarting your hpta. i mean the bloodwork proves both of you wrong here

@Ulter how soon after your last testosterone injection do you recommend stating Enclomiphene? Curious for my next cycle.

 

[CaliAnabolic]

a bit too early to get bloods. you want to give it 3-4 weeks post pct to get them done. too early for your body to start bouncing @CaliAnabolic

@2Thick I was thinking it was ~6 weeks after your last injection that a blood test was recommended.

 

[Ulter]

@Ulter how soon after your last testosterone injection do you recommend stating Enclomiphene? Curious for my next cycle.

depends on what ester you used. generally 2 weeks before ester clearance is when i would start

 

[CaliAnabolic]

@Ulter I used cypionate. I believe the ester life is four weeks? On my next cycle I’ll be using ethonate which I believe has the same life span as cypionate.

 

[CaliAnabolic]

@CaliAnabolic hcg will delay recovery. it doesn't speed it up. you are still early in pct. i would stay away from hcg, run the SERM and add a strong T booster. also next time you need to run LH and FSH too

@SteveSmi is hMG the pharmaceutical that contains both FSH and LH? Thanks!

 

[2Thick]

@2Thick I was thinking it was ~6 weeks after your last injection that a blood test was recommended.

how can that be true? it takes a long ester atleast that long to even clear your system

 

[SteveSmi]

@SteveSmi is hMG the pharmaceutical that contains both FSH and LH? Thanks!

HMG is a hormone like HCG. they both mimic those hormones in the body but they will crash your LH and FSH. you do NOT want to use them ever in pct.

the whole priming the balls or kickstarting pct is just made up bro science. the same people who say dumb shit like that are all on TRT because their crackspot ideas have been proven wrong

 

[CaliAnabolic]

HMG is a hormone like HCG. they both mimic those hormones in the body but they will crash your LH and FSH. you do NOT want to use them ever in pct.

the whole priming the balls or kickstarting pct is just made up bro science. the same people who say dumb shit like that are all on TRT because their crackspot ideas have been proven wrong

@SteveSmi what pharmaceutical do you recommend that contains both LH and FSH? Also, at what point do you start LH/FSH and for how long? Thanks for the advice!

 

[SteveSmi]

@SteveSmi what pharmaceutical do you recommend that contains both LH and FSH? Also, at what point do you start LH/FSH and for how long? Thanks for the advice!

i'm a bit confused here

SERM's will block estrogen feedback which will boost lh and fsh. that is why guys use them both in pct. is that what you mean?

the short answer to your question is your pituitary glands will spit out lh and fsh as it recovers. once its fried then its fried and you won't produce it anymore

 

[CaliAnabolic]

i'm a bit confused here

SERM's will block estrogen feedback which will boost lh and fsh. that is why guys use them both in pct. is that what you mean?

the short answer to your question is your pituitary glands will spit out lh and fsh as it recovers. once its fried then its fried and you won't produce it anymore

@SteveSmi I thought in your message below you were saying to run three different pharmaceuticals: a SERM, testosterone booster, and LH/FSH. I’m realizing you are suggesting to just run two things during a PCT, a SERM and a testosterone booster.

run the SERM and add a strong T booster. also next time you need to run LH and FSH too

 

[SteveSmi]

@SteveSmi I thought in your message below you were saying to run three different pharmaceuticals: a SERM, testosterone booster, and LH/FSH. I’m realizing you are suggesting to just run two things during a PCT, a SERM and a testosterone booster.

nolva and/or clomid together. low dose. and then use a strong T booster like hcgenerate.