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Libido Disappeared on Test + Stack Deca?

eneyman

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I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
 
I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
@eneyman welcome to the anabolex family bro :) we are very happy to have you share
right off the bat yes proviron CAN help but you might have 100 other issues we are not aware of

what we would like to do is see you share your LOG journal NOW in a new thread, share training diet history supp use sleep and more details so we can properly guide you on this cycle, it will take you 15min to start
right now i get your history on gear but nothing else really so all is guessing, but guessing with steorids NOT smart

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I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
@eneyman there is A LOT here to unpack man
i think you don't have enough of an understanding how all these hormones and drugs work. and how the body reacts. you don't 'reset your system' for example. that isn't how this work. its not like your computer starts running bad, then reset the computer to get it working right. our bodies don't work like this. i would actually recommend in this situation you reach out to me via PM and get setup on a 1 on 1 consultation so i can explain how all this works.
 
I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
you should be using proviron on a cycle like that. not wait till after
i think that a lot of this was preventable @eneyman
 
I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
bro i bet if i put hot lizard in front of you then you be fine. libido is all in the mind. some of us real men and some aren't @eneyman
 
you should be using proviron on a cycle like that. not wait till after
i think that a lot of this was preventable @eneyman
Thanks 2Thick, do you think with enough time my function returns to pre-test level and then when i'm ready Proviron will be the key ingredient to manage estro levels when back on t, keeping libido strong?
 
I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
@eneyman i would recommend listening to the evolutionary podcasts.
Steve hosts it. its great info on all this stuff. get your log going is a good tip as well https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
 
I am 38 yrs old, 180lbs and went through a really serious last year which included 2 spine fusions of my cervical and lower back. Even before those surgeries I was noticing a major dip in energy, confidence and physique. I had not gotten my test levels checked by any doctors and decided to try this on my own. I responded really well to the test I was using obtained from naps which were:
Ultima Test Cyp 250 / Dragon Test Enant 250
Dragon Sustanon 270

Doses I was using for about 11-12 weeks were -- 3x per week at typically 70 units / 100 on the 1cc pins. I would estimate this to be 170mg x 3 days a week. I would also pin HCG same day. I did incorporate 1 tablet Anastrozole 1mg day after test injection for a window of maybe 2 or 3 weeks but did not notice any change in the libido improving, but I did sense the anxiety and worry spikes did go down when I took the Anastrozole which makes sense suppressing estrogen, I also think it helped with acne control if I broke out a little. Was I taking too low a dose if libido got zapped?

I just read up a little on Proviron and it sounds like that may be beneficial to incorporate for my next attempt when I am ready. I am about 2 weeks off the t and want to reset my system, and I definitely notice my body and energy going back to "normal" which was pretty dirt poor, all the neck and back aches, joint inflammation, chronic pain is all back to the same levels pre-test. I know most people say test is for life but I want to possibly do 3 months on and a month or so off if possible. I am just hoping the libido returns to normal levels with some more time and good diet. Can anyone confirm if Proviron was the compound that I was missing, or possibly that I was using too much test? I really want to get the balance dialed in of dose + correct side compounds/supplement to maintain gains/strength/physique and also keep the sexual desire and libido strong. I never really had any libido issues in my life, obviously you slow down big time getting close to 40, but one thing I noticed when I first tried test was the libido went through the roof and I was having amazing morning wood etc and kept it, but after continuous use the full cycle, it was zapped entirely.

I'd like to get some high level experienced guys from the boards here to help me figure out a recipe that works with strong success (and happy to get my t levels checked).

Lastly, I am reading how Deca can possibly help someone in my situation who has really bad degenerative disk disease and just weak bones, I felt like the test was making me feel incredible and strong, reinforced, but toward the end of the cycle I found myself just wanting to shoot excess doses to get past my plateau. I hear Deca is an amazing stack with test but also zaps your libido, possibly even worse than test. Can you guys help me understand if I should avoid deca or consider using it safely in lower doses in combo with test (if you are confident I will keep my libido rocking and what side compounds are required to keep the side effects of deca under control)

I really appreciate you guys providing insight, without judgement or negative energy. Thanks so much and hope to keep learning more from you all as I try to heal and build my body back.
@eneyman bros first off relax. a lot of us when we started using steroids went through some trial/error
get in touch with my boy steve and go over all this. and like others said get your log up and share your progress. deca don't have to zap libido, but everyone is different
 
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